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Post by Dave on Apr 1, 2011 15:38:20 GMT -5
When I think of the inspiration, art and just plain labor that went into the church and the armory, I'm awed that anyone would even consider taking them down. What got into us?
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Post by fiona on Apr 1, 2011 21:50:27 GMT -5
What an ugly, useless structure, built only to house "poor people". Some ijits idea of Urban Renewal. Disgusting.
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Post by fiona on Apr 1, 2011 21:51:40 GMT -5
What got into us? Greed, me boyo, pure and simple. Greed.
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Post by fiona on Apr 3, 2011 17:51:18 GMT -5
Utica's history can be evidenced in various street names. For example, Moses Bagg built a tavern in 1794 that became the center of all village activity. From this square came four streets: Southward, a trail that once connected the Mohawk, Oneida, Cayuga, Onondaga, and Seneca lands, became a road that led to Genesee country. To the east of Bagg Square, there was the Main Street of Utica which sprouted First, Second, and Third streets as the settlement grew.
To the west there was the road to Whitsboro. A shortcut was built in 1795 to facilitate the movement of stagecoaches coming from the west to Utica's Hotel, which the Holland Land Company funded. To the north, there was a street running along a river which during the spring would flood, earning the name Water Street. Heading northward from the Square, one would find himself at Deerfield Corners; from there he could go west along Riverside, northbound to Trenton (through land once owned by the Weaver family, or along Dr. Alexander Coventry's, the village's first physician, property.) East of Deerfield Corners one would travel along the road where General Herkimer led his troops to the Battle of Oriskany.
Once the land known as Cosby Manor, situated along the Mohawk River, was surveyed by John Bleeker, son of Rutger Bleeker - an original owner of the lands - the southern side was further divided into separate plots. To distinguish this set of plots from the land belonging to General Bradstreet's progeny, Division Street came into being. In the initial developments of the Bleeker property, the land was surveyed to its southernmost point at South street and as far west as West street. The streets within the property became named after Rutger Bleeker's family: Catherine Bleeker, his wife; Elizabeth Brinckerhoff, Mary Miller, Blandina Dudley, and Sarah Bleeker, his daughters; John Bleeker, his son; Morris Miller, his son-in-law, and Horatio Seymour, his grandson-in-law.
John Lansing was an executor of Rutger Bleeker's will. Charlotte and Neilson are believed to be related to the family somehow but by undetermined links.[4]
I took this from Wiki pedia. I think it's mostly right.
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Post by fiona on Apr 3, 2011 18:05:09 GMT -5
I know I put this up before, but I love it so much!  |
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Post by fiona on Apr 3, 2011 18:16:50 GMT -5
Birds eye - 1909-  |
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Post by Dave on Apr 3, 2011 18:37:11 GMT -5
Me too, I really like the reddish Bird's Eye in reply 34 above. It yields nice but partial detail of the back and northwest side of St. Johns. I must have walked by it every school day for three years, but barely remember it, except through the old photos.
It's been a long time since cities were all red brick. Must have been some sight in early morning and late afternoon when the reds would have been enhanced to a great degree.
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Post by fiona on Apr 4, 2011 11:37:01 GMT -5
I think the detail and resolution in this photo - post card - is exquisite - look at the top wrought iron fencing of the roofs - you can almost touch it - and the stone work - I wonder if this too is from a glass negative? You are right about the red brick, there are still quite a few red brick buildings in Utica, when the sun hits the red is enhanced and shadows are very dark. This card shows the city as a place of solid respectability with its emphasis on the tops of the buildings and their decorative fretwork. These buildings were built to last, to speak to the people who lived in the city and make them feel comforted. They are all different, not anynomous and slap dash like new buildings, all cookie cutter and pre assembled. I am a fan of the city as you can tell and would love to see cities re establish themselves in ways that were built for human needs, not the needs of corporations or the automobile. Perhaps these works that we are doing will start something rolling.
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Post by fiona on Apr 5, 2011 14:16:27 GMT -5
A nice modern birds eye.  |
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Post by fiona on Apr 8, 2011 22:18:16 GMT -5
I am going to be working on "Streets" in the upcoming days and will be making some changes to the format. Please be patient with me while the story line is in development.
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Post by fiona on Apr 10, 2011 18:09:51 GMT -5
Does anyone remember or can identify or say where this building was? Found this card on e bay but know nothing about this building.  |
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Post by fiona on Apr 10, 2011 18:20:37 GMT -5
How about this??  I see the architect is a graduate of in International Correspondence School.. Hope the building didn't fall down. LOL. In all honesty, this is a beautiful building, but, where? Also, note the structural similarities to the post of the Government Building above. |
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Post by keith on Apr 12, 2011 21:12:31 GMT -5
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Post by Dave on Apr 12, 2011 22:49:07 GMT -5
Does anyone remember or can identify or say where this building was? Found this card on e bay but know nothing about this building. It's Utica's old post office (as identified on the card) and I believe it was on the site of the new one on Broad St. |
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Post by fiona on Apr 13, 2011 18:54:53 GMT -5
Dave: So sorry. I took your 2 new birds eye views down by mistake. I mean to take mine down. i will take mine down now. Please replace yours. Sorry.
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