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Post by dicknaegele on Aug 9, 2010 11:04:09 GMT -5
Dave had said above that with limited refrigeration and whatever the cost of ice for those with iceboxes, it would have been handy to shop daily at the store down at the corner, as many do today in Europe.
It brought to mind a memory from my childhood. Before the average family had a large home freezer or "deep freeze" as we called them when I was a kid, we had local "lockers". My dad always bought a pig and a quarter of beef each year from a local farmer in the Barneveld area, and had it butchered at the Poland Meat Locker. The butcher there would cut wrap and freeze our meat, and then it was stored in a freezer locker until we needed it. I remember going there with my father to retrieve a week or so's worth of meat to take home. Usually whatever would fit into the little freezer compartment of the refrigerator.
My dad also did the shopping and we also shopped at the A&P. I loved going with him, and can still remember the wonderful smell of the fresh ground coffee which was ground at the check out.
Thanks for reviving another fond memory Dave.
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Post by jon on Aug 9, 2010 11:30:59 GMT -5
TO-MORROW RIGHT ON THE AVE
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Colored People to Celebrate the Completion of the Pavement
There will be a hot time on Post Avenue to-morrow night. The work of paving that thoroughfare has been about completed and the residents propose to celebrate the occasion in a most fitting manner. The "Ave" will be illuminated with colored lanterns, an orchestra will play for dancing upon the new pavement and last, but by no means least, there will be a cake walk for a prize. Utica's colored people will be out in full force and may be seen in all their glory. Already several couples have announced their intention of entering the walk and while the exhibition is sure to be a good one the judges' task will be difficult for there is considerable strife for the holder of being the best cake walker in town. A competent committee has the arrangements in charge and they promise a time not soon forgotten for those who attend.
UTICA DAILY PRESS - 1899
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Post by Dave on Aug 9, 2010 11:42:17 GMT -5
I think the kids at the end of the first clip did it best.  Cakewalk |
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Post by Dave on Aug 9, 2010 11:46:42 GMT -5
Dave had said above that with limited refrigeration and whatever the cost of ice for those with iceboxes, it would have been handy to shop daily at the store down at the corner, as many do today in Europe. It brought to mind a memory from my childhood. Before the average family had a large home freezer or "deep freeze" as we called them when I was a kid, we had local "lockers". My dad always bought a pig and a quarter of beef each year from a local farmer in the Barneveld area, and had it butchered at the Poland Meat Locker. The butcher there would cut wrap and freeze our meat, and then it was stored in a freezer locker until we needed it. I remember going there with my father to retrieve a week or so's worth of meat to take home. Usually whatever would fit into the little freezer compartment of the refrigerator. My dad also did the shopping and we also shopped at the A&P. I loved going with him, and can still remember the wonderful smell of the fresh ground coffee which was ground at the check out. Thanks for reviving another fond memory Dave. Yup, a friend of mine's father ran a business down here where they had freezer lockers that because of hunting in the Catskills still was viable right up to around the year 2,000. And people brought in what the slaughtered on the farm, etc. But to day they just sell and service stoves and refrigerators. I can still smell EVERYTHING at the A&P next to the Olbiston. But you're right, most memorable was the 8 o'clock coffee. |
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Post by jon on Aug 9, 2010 11:53:09 GMT -5
Dave had said above that with limited refrigeration and whatever the cost of ice for those with iceboxes, it would have been handy to shop daily at the store down at the corner, as many do today in Europe. Before the Refrigerators we had Ice Boxes. The top lid would swing back and the ice would be placed in the compartment, which would keep the rest of the box very cool. We weren't allowed to stand around with the door open. Once the cold was gone it was gone until the next scheduled ice delivery day. We would try and snag a chip of ice from the Ice Man as he and his horse and wagon cart with the ice blocks stopped to make a delivery. I don't ever remember getting any though, 'cause he was real quick and kept his eyes pealed on the cart., and us kids. We did most of the shopping at the corner stores and once a week would go to the infamous A&P. |
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Post by fiona on Aug 9, 2010 13:52:10 GMT -5
I think it may have been a more "open air" market. When I get the time, I'll have to look into it.
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Post by Dave on Aug 9, 2010 14:27:32 GMT -5
Dave had said above that with limited refrigeration and whatever the cost of ice for those with iceboxes, it would have been handy to shop daily at the store down at the corner, as many do today in Europe. Before the Refrigerators we had Ice Boxes. The top lid would swing back and the ice would be placed in the compartment, which would keep the rest of the box very cool. We weren't allowed to stand around with the door open. Once the cold was gone it was gone until the next scheduled ice delivery day. We would try and snag a chip of ice from the Ice Man as he and his horse and wagon cart with the ice blocks stopped to make a delivery. I don't ever remember getting any though, 'cause he was real quick and kept his eyes pealed on the cart., and us kids. We did most of the shopping at the corner stores and once a week would go to the infamous A&P. I remember horse drawn ice wagons in the neighborhood on Cornhill before '52. Junks of ice would drop in the road and the trick was to find one not smeared with horse poop! I have a small size ice box that we bought many years ago at a garage sale. We keep it on our side enclosed porch, but originally I imagine it may have been used at a camp or just for milk, possibly. Inside the bottom keeping area it's maybe a cubic foot in dimension. Overall size is probably 18 b 18 by 40 inches high. The kids used to keep their fireworks in there ... those that would fit. |
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Post by jon on Aug 9, 2010 15:30:47 GMT -5
CITY AND COUNTRY FOLK
On Post Avenue, in Utica, Tuesday, William Morris, drunk, and incited by jealousy, cut with a razor, his common law wife, Susan Gray. Both are colored. The cut was made in the back of the head and extends to the skull.
ROMAN CITIZEN - JANUARY 28, 1898
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Post by jon on Aug 9, 2010 16:40:05 GMT -5
MORE SMALL POX IN UTICA
Small pox has again broken out in Utica, this time on Post Avenue, in the district occupied mainly by colored people, and the street has been quarantined. Each house is occupied by several families. Post Avenue is quite near the business part of the city and the advanced schools, and the appearance of a small pox has caused considerable excitement.
ROMAN CITIZEN - MAY 16, 1894
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Post by jon on Aug 9, 2010 18:55:05 GMT -5
RAZORS AND PISTOL
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Utica the Scene of Two Tragedies Sunday
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A Polish Woman Attempts to Shoot Her Betrayer - Both are Arrested and Jailed - Two Negroes Engage in a Bloody Battle - One May Die
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Post by jon on Aug 9, 2010 18:56:14 GMT -5
Sunday morning about 7 o'clock Argota Bitte, a Polish woman, went to the house 95 Canal street, Utica, armed with a revolver, in search of a Polander named Casper Junol. As soon as she saw him she pulled out a revolver and fired at him, but her aim was not good and the bullet went through an open window, and Junol ran out of the house unharmed. Before she could fire again the revolver was taken from her, and she was immediately arrested. She was arraigned in city court before Judge Morehouse on the charge of assault in the first degree, which Junol preferred against her. Though her counsel she pleaded not guilty, and was held in $2,000 bail for examination Friday at 2:30 P. M. She said she would surely kill Junol if she got another chance.
The woman said she came to this country four years ago and obtained work in a tailor shop at Baltimore. There she met Junol and they commenced to keep company, and, under promise of marriage, she says, Junol accomplished her ruin. A child was born and Junol forsook her. She found him in Philadelphia and had him arrested. He was taken into court and agreed to marry her. He didn't want to have the Judge perform the ceremony.
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Post by jon on Aug 9, 2010 18:57:26 GMT -5
It would be much nicer, he said to be married in church so they could invite their friends. She consented to this plan and says she gave him $100 with which to make preparations. But as soon as he was at liberty he left her again. In July, 1891, Miss Bitte learned that he was in Utica and she went there. Junol then left Utica and went to Rochester. She was led to believe that he was in Boston and went there, soon after which Junol returned to Utica. She was determined that Junol should make good his promise of marriage, and with that end in view she went to Utica about 10 days ago. She found Junol as obdurate as ever and paying attentions to another woman. She bought a revolver Saturday with the result as stated.
Junol endeavored to make light of the woman;s story, saying her story was false and that she had no claims upon him. He was rather surprised when he was arrested in court upon a warrant sworn out by Miss Bitte, charging him with grand larceny in bringing stolen money into the State. He was held in $400 bail They could not obtain bail and were lodged in jail.
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Post by jon on Aug 9, 2010 18:58:29 GMT -5
Julius Haines and Glen Taylor, both colored, attended a colored dance at "Shad" Jackson's place on Post Avenue in Utica Saturday night. They came north to work on the new Adirondack railroad. Haines is from Greenville, S. C., and Taylor from Richmond, Va. The two men were entire strangers to each other. Haines arrived in Utica that night, while Taylor had been to work here a number of weeks. Haines claimed he had been robbed of $4 while in "Dod" Pell's place and wanted Pell to make good his loss. He continued to make a good deal of noise and Pell ordered him out. He then made some threats about shooting and cutting. He got outside and Taylor came along and took him off Pell's hands.
Haines didn't relish Taylor's interference and accused him of being "in" with Pell. They went along the street together to the saloon conducted by "Shad" Jackson and Jim Pell, where a colored dance was in progress.
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Post by jon on Aug 9, 2010 18:59:15 GMT -5
A little after midnight the two men got into another altercation and they went outside in the lane to fight it out. Haines with a razor and Taylor with a jack knife. The battle was brief but bloody. Haines is generally said to have struck the first blow. He got in but one effective blow anyway, for the razor which he used was very thin and broke off when it struck Taylor's jawbone. It inflicted a gash about six inches long down the left side of his face, from which the blood flowed profusely. With his jack knife Taylor did great execution. He inflicted six severe wounds upon Haines. One was upon the back of the head, one under the arm, and one, the most serious, in the back, slightly penetrating the lungs. Both men were promptly lodged in jail and later were taken to city Hospital, and Coroner Cook summoned. He took the men's statements. the Coroner had the two men turn over their in their beds so that they faced each other, but they seemed not to recognize each other, but no one doubts but they are the men that fought.
There is nothing dangerous about Taylor's condition, but the case of Haines is serious on account of the injury to the lung, but there are good chances that all his wounds will heal, provided inflammation does not set in.
ROME CITIZEN - AUGUST 10, 1892
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Post by fiona on Aug 9, 2010 19:59:04 GMT -5
I went down to Post St today, looking for something to photograph. What I thought were old structures were not. There is a garage there from the 1920's. Totally uninteresting.
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