Post St. Blues-Fiona at the library

[jon]

ROBBED A DRUMMER

Complaint was made to the police last evening by a traveling man from northern New York that he had been robbed of $69 by two colored women, from the drummer's story it appeared that he met the two women on the street and a conversation followed.When the traveling man got back to his hotel he found that his money was gone and he gave the alarm. It is supposed that the affair took place in the vicinity of Post Avenue. a locality that unsophisticated drummers should avoid.


UTICA HERALD DISPATCH - JUNE 28, 1908

[jon]

GIFT HIGHLY PRIZED
BY PATRICK CROFTON
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Received Chest of Stone Cutting Tools Owned by Late Chief of Police - Both Worked for Same Places
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Patrick Crofton, the veteran monument dealer of 65 Washington street has received from Mrs. Charles Cleveland, widow of the late chief of police, and her sons a chest containing the tools which were used by her husband a this trade prior to the time he became a member of the police force many years ago.

Mr. Crofton was for several years employed with the late Mr. Cleveland at the trade of stone cutting. Both were employed by the firm of Ray Holden, which firm was later succeeded by Thompson & Miller, with a place at the corner of Charlotte street and Post Avenue. Mr. Crofton was presented the chest of tools many years ago by Mr. Cleveland and a few days after he received them from the members of the family. Since the tools were kept away the best of care has been taken of them and they are in as good condition now as when new. Mr. Crofton highly prizes the gift.

UTICA HERALD DISPATCH - MARCH 31, 1908

[fiona]

So, do I have this right... the County Jail was on Mohawk Street (where a shopping center is today), next to that was the County Hospital (approx where McDonalds is today), south of that was the pest house, south of that is Saint Agnes Cemetary. Eagle Street must have not yet been extended through, so that was one continuous piece of land, right? I think the County Hospital was taken down in the early 1960's. If anyone recalls, back in 2009 when we were on Clippers I posted some info about a very old abandonded building, a large building, which in 1964 was still standing behind what was then Dan Dee Donuts. It may have been a school of some type, we thought, but never located any info on it. The building was wide open and anyone could go in there. It was quite large, several stories, with large open rooms.
Behind this was a large Victorian house where a family lived. I wonder, could this have been the pest house?

[fiona]

I think this is the hospital we are speaking of.

Attachments:

[fiona]

This may be the jail we are speaking of.

Attachments:

[Dave]

Yes to both the old jail and the old general hospital, and they are so labeled on each of the post cards. By the way, if you can send the photos to me or get them into the Photobucket account, I can enlarge them for you in your posts.

Below is a view from the 1883 map with the streets and buildings labeled for the block north of St. Agnes Cemetery.

I remember our discussion about your memory of a mansion behind the old general hospital. I remember the Navy Station toward the southern end of the block, and of the course the strip mall when it was built in the early '60's. I remember the hospital and in fact went there for a tetanus shot in '56 or so. The only other building I remember to the west of the hospital before encountering Third Ave. (St. Vincent Street) was a deserted factory or quarry facility of some sort behind the Graffenberg Dairy on Eagle St. We played there as kids.

[jon]

SMALLPOX PATIENT
TOOK SUDDEN LEAVE
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Carl Black, Aged 20, Peru, Ind., One of Two Circus Followers With Smallpox, Has Lit Out
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PUBLIC KEPT IN DARK FOR WHOLE DAY
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[jon]

Carl Black, aged 18, of Peru, Ind., one of two smallpox patients confined in the ravine hospital back of the General Hospital, is missing, and the police have been asked to find him. Black got away either Sunday night or early Monday morning, his absence being noticed at 8 o'clock yesterday morning. To delay sounding the alarm of his disappearance Black disconnected the telephone in the building. Just why the Health Officer, who was immediately notified did not make the matter public as quickly as possible is not apparent. While it is not likely that Black lingered long in the city after getting out of the ravine hospital, there was nothing to prevent his roaming the city and getting in contact with hundreds of persons.

Black, with F. M. Williams, aged 39, of Clarksburh, W. Va., came into Utica on the morning of June 23, the day of the Ringling Brothers' circus, with which both men claimed to belong, though Health Officer Crim said the circus people denied the men were employees of the big show. The men walked into the office of Dr. Crim at 261 Genesee street and asked to be examined for smallpox. The Health Officer found they had it and placed a guard over the men in his back yard until the ravine hospital was made ready for them.

[jon]

The nurse that was engaged to tale care of the patients yesterday morning discovered one of her charges missing. Black was in bed when the nurse retired Sunday night. Between that time and yesterday morning he got away.

It is believed that Black left town, though he would have been safe to remain in the city as far as the general public were concerned in their ignorance that a smallpox patient was at large. Williams, the other patient, who claims to know nothing of Black's disappearance, thinks his companion may have got away to rejoin the circus. The one they were following exhibited in Cleveland, O., yesterday. It is not believed Black had any money with him, however, and it may be that he has not traveled any considerable distance in the State. Black carried away with him a cake of soap and a towel from the ravine hospital. Black's face, it is said, is just at the peeling stage.


UTICA HERALD DISPATCH - JULY 13, 1913

[jon]

THIS COLORED GIRL
MUST LEAVE TOWN
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May Johnson, Who Is an Old Time Disturber, Banished From City - Sentence Hangs Over Her[/size]

May Johnson,colored,was in City Court this morning on the charge of public intoxication. While drunk on Post Avenue last night she created a great disturbance ans called Officer Clark, who arrested her, all the vile names that a lively imagination could call to her tongue. She had frequently been in court before for the same offense. special City Judge Baxter informed her that in her case patience had ceased to be a virtue and that her presence in the city could no longer be tolerated. He sentenced her to 50 days in jail and then suspended it with the understanding that if she was found in Utica after 6p. m.to-day it was jail for her.

The case against Thomas Jones, charged with keeping a disorderly house on North Genesee street, which came up some time ago, was dismissed, as it developed that Jones was not the keeper of the house and that Ray Walters was really the responsible party. Miss Walters was arraigned this morning on the charge of keeping a disorderly house, pleaded guilty and was fined $75, which was paid.

Mark Reynolds, charged with public intoxication, was sent to hail for 20 days.


UTICA HERALD DISPATCH - JULY 27, 1904

[jon]

FROM HOSPITAL TO CITY COURT
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Woman Who Was Stabbed Discharged In Time To Appear Against The Negress Who Assaulted Her[/size]

Partially recovered from the wound she received in the fracas, Mrs. May Johnson of 19 Water street was conveyed from the City Hospital this morning to the City Court room so that she might appear against Minnie Thompson, the negress who stabbed her in a quarrel at the corner of Charlotte street and Post Avenue last Friday morning.

When the Thomson woman pleaded not guilty to assault in the first degree on her original arraignment she demanded an examination, and it was set down for 10 a. m. to-day, but when everyone else who was connected with the affair had assembled prepared to go on with the case this morning, the Johnson woman's husband prayed for an adjournment because he could not find the lawyer he desired to defend his wife.

[jon]

The condition of the injured woman has rapidly improved during the few days she has been under treatment at the hospital and she is now entirely out of danger, although she is by no means fully recovered. In the court room this morning, Mrs. Johnson denied the story of the quarrel as stated by the defendant, saying that she did not strike her before the Thompson woman stabbed her. Mrs. Johnson said that she never accused the defendant of having an undue friendship with her husband and did not know why she was attacked.

The matter was held over until this afternoon.

George Mathews, charged with vagrancy, went to jail for six months to-day. For public intoxication Lenardo Cavellara paid a fine of $5 and Mary Wenzel went to the Oneida County Home for six months.

A little colored girl named Brewster spent the night at the Police Station as a result of her waywardness. She had been stealing money from her guardian The child will be arraigned this afternoon.


UTICA HERALD DISPATCH - JANUARY 27, 1903

[Dave]

Fiona, thanks to Jon, we have the full size pix of the General Hospital and Old Jail on photobucket. I modified your posts, above, to use them.
Dave

[jon]

FIELD DAY OF COLORED PEOPLE

Colored people had a great day of it in local police circles yesterday no less than seven having been arrested in the course of the day. One was sentenced to a year for attempting to pick a pocket, two were released as innocent, three were given twenty minutes in which to get out of town and one woman remains. She is charged with public intoxication and was helplessly drunk when removed from Post Avenue to the station yesterday afternoon.


UTICA DAILY PRESS - JULY 18, 1899

[jon]

Jul 29, 2010 18:09:04 GMT -5 fiona said:

I think this is the hospital we are speaking of.

There are buildings in back (South) of the General Hospital.

My guess is that they are the Ravine and or Pest Hospital(s)